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Post Info TOPIC: MUSCLECAR MODIFICATIONS
MUSCLE CAR MODS [11 vote(s)]

Allow chassis mods to be common for ALL cars irrespective of body/chassis
54.5%
Do not allow any mods to chassis other than trinning to allow body roll
45.5%


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MUSCLECAR MODIFICATIONS


Should chassis's be modified to allow resin and other donar bodies to be fitted thereby enhancing the choice of cars shaps running in the class.

ALL modifications including front axle ONLY and lowering* can be done to ALL cars in the class

One weekend only to answer - poll closes Sunday night

* lowering would remove ANY issues about resin bodies being mounted to low andthereby perceived as being advantageous

-- Edited by aastes at 18:35, 2008-11-28

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If there are no chassis mods then this will severely restrict the resin bodied cars that can be used and the chassis that can be used. If only trimming is allowed then that rules out the Mustang and Camaro chassis's from being used as the front skirt needs to be cut off to fit under the front of most resin bodies.

I am against lowering in this class, I would have thought that one of the reasons for having the cars approved before they could race would be to make sure they are not lowered and are running a similar height to the standard cars.

So it looks like I am against both options so I will not be voting.



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I would have thought that one of the reasons for having the cars approved before they could race would be to make sure they are not lowered and are running a similar height to the standard carsI guess that's where the committee has to decide what's fair when allowing the class.
I don't see it as a major problem Chris, as long as the resin car is close to standard Scaley height (for eg.) then this would ensure an even field, right?

I reckon the Moffatt Mustang needs to be dropped at the front, myself...purely from an asthetic point.

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mtpanorama wrote:

If there are no chassis mods then this will severely restrict the resin bodied cars that can be used and the chassis that can be used. If only trimming is allowed then that rules out the Mustang and Camaro chassis's from being used as the front skirt needs to be cut off to fit under the front of most resin bodies.

I am against lowering in this class, I would have thought that one of the reasons for having the cars approved before they could race would be to make sure they are not lowered and are running a similar height to the standard cars.

So it looks like I am against both options so I will not be voting.



Very helpful response - thats why we keep going round and round and round and round and round in circles - Dont vote then dont moan about or question the regs?


-- Edited by aastes at 16:34, 2008-11-28

-- Edited by aastes at 16:35, 2008-11-28

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Hi all,

I voted yes so we can see some "new paint" in the class and as we're not racing for sheep stations "this" year, I'd like to see how the scratchies compete with the factory builds.

I think it will be an interesting year and hey, what the heck, allow the modded cars and let's see if there is a difference I say.

Things won't change as long as they stay the same!!!!

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I haven't a problem with lengthening a chassis in the case of the Monaro as long as the guide to rear wheels remains the same and the chassis isn't lowered as a result of the modifications.

This might sound stupid but thinking out aloud this class might need a minimum weight not a maximum?

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I'm building my Monaro to run as best it can (Scaley chassis) and i still don't think it will come close to the Scaley Mustang or Camaro.

The front axle mod is for positioning only for proper fit...not a performance enhancment!

And what is the std height for these resin car's anyway?

Don't understand what the big deal is!!

If you don't want to race one then don't....

-- Edited by Scrivo at 08:41, 2008-11-29

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Well said Dave.
I think there's too much being read into everything we do.



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why are we excluding other plastic bodies for this class. my view is this, i dont agree with any scratch built cars racing against manufactured cars, as a smaller group of people (including me) can always build a faster scratchie that the manufactured car.
With standard cars eveyone has the same opportunity to make the same modifications.
i voted no, (and i have a lot of these cars) but what ever vote wins the day i will comply with.

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my vote is in

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Qudos to Dave,

"When" we start racing for money and sheep stations, THEN I'll worry about what someone has, hasn't, isn't & doesn't do "under the bonnet".

Yet again, this should be about having FUN (I read somewhere it's number 1!) and NOT over-complicating things????

Regards to all,

Shane

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I may be 'pushing' my own wheelbarrow, my only wish, was to increase the number of potential runners, and to avoid the class becoming  Camaro cup.
The chassis mods for Phils resin bodies, I don't think are performance enhancing it's purely to allow the front wheels to fit in the wheel wells. its really a question of 'mm' hardly earth shattering.

The other chassis option that from memory fits without moving the front wheels is the BA Falcon.

I agree with Dave and to some extent Steve we aren't racing for pink slips, this is supposed to be a an easy, friendly casual runnning group of like minded afficiandos.

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I agree in part with what everyone has said, and I love to tinker and make things too. But are we going to every year go through this wanting to change every class we race for what ever the reason ? Geez I cant wait to start nailing the specifics of LMP, Classics and Nascar.

Take a good look through this forum, the class discussions I don't think any class hasn't been molested in one way or another. Alot of our classes have provided great close racing, muscle cars being one of them. The old saying "if it aint broke, don't fix it".

As for the social thing yes we have a fantastic synergy within the whole group, but some blokes are racing to win. You only need to look at their faces when they haven't had a good day on the track.

Now where did I put those Titanium screws.....


-- Edited by Rob at 06:35, 2008-11-30

-- Edited by Rob at 06:40, 2008-11-30

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I agree with both the aboves - little steps are all thats needed. Wholesale changes means the dynamics changes and that is a move into the unknown.

As for NASTYCAR and Classics as far as I am concerned whats posted is whats raced

NASCAR standard plus weight and MJK

Classics NINCO standard rims and tyres or NINCO tyres and scaley motor or Thruster. Thats why the rules say what you can do

As for LMP its a prototype class and as such in more open than others re motors cos to limit motors means to limit choices of cars

I think I agree with Dick - and in stead of doing the 'right thing' and asking the group we will just say how it will be and thats the end of it.

-- Edited by aastes at 05:46, 2008-12-01

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