Questions about what cars and classes will be raced
I think it may be best to break the car class pols/questions up into class type and just poll one at a time
ie poll for prefered Sedans and have a choice of say V8s, Rally, Muscle car etc. Do the same for open wheelers, Sports and GT type cars
Whether the poll asks you to just say yes or no or lets you rate each class I havent quite got my head around as y/n answers are clear cut but leave no room for maybe answers ( bad english but hopefully you all understand what I am getting at)
As we all have cars currently listed to race, perhaps we could allow mods to those cars to keep costs low. (Instead of having to buy a car to race in a new class)
IE: allowing things like alloy rims and metal gears to improve performance and longevity of our cars. I think it was mentioned that SCX rims are quite cheap, yet good quality... we don't have to buy NSR neccessarily.... so it can still be affordable without needing to spend $100+ on a single car, and we can get some improvement on what we've got.
The drill blank axles for the Fly cars for eg. At $1, it's a great improvement for next to nothing.
I lifted this from Steve's post in the "like's, dislikes thread"
OPEN UP MUSCLE CARS TO INCLUDE ANY PRE 1970S SEDAN (ESCORTS ETC)and thought it would be relevant to discuss it here ,
atm this class has almost become the camaro cup , with a spattering of mustangs ,a galaxie (suprisingly competitive) and a torino (read BOAT) sorry chewy but its true.
personally I like the idea of have the likes of escorts and alfa's etc run in this class , the only issue being parity , the escort I have (scalextric) is an absolute weapon , almost undrivable with its slim line motor (supplied as standard) , and as I see it ,when/if tamed would dominate the class ,thus leading to another one car class . come to think of it my fly alfa is the same ! so a possible change of motor to the familiar mabuchi 18k would be nessasary to even up the field and keep the variety of cars on the grid.
their has also been mentioned the inclusion of scratch builts (resin bodies), a personal favorite , and when time allows is what I do best , another good idea , but again we will face issues of things like custom/chassis/mods and motors
I lifted this from Steve's post in the "like's, dislikes thread"
OPEN UP MUSCLE CARS TO INCLUDE ANY PRE 1970S SEDAN (ESCORTS ETC)and thought it would be relevant to discuss it here ,
atm this class has almost become the camaro cup , with a spattering of mustangs ,a galaxie (suprisingly competitive) and a torino (read BOAT) sorry chewy but its true.
personally I like the idea of have the likes of escorts and alfa's etc run in this class , the only issue being parity , the escort I have (scalextric) is an absolute weapon , almost undrivable with its slim line motor (supplied as standard) , and as I see it ,when/if tamed would dominate the class ,thus leading to another one car class . come to think of it my fly alfa is the same ! so a possible change of motor to the familiar mabuchi 18k would be nessasary to even up the field and keep the variety of cars on the grid.
their has also been mentioned the inclusion of scratch builts (resin bodies), a personal favorite , and when time allows is what I do best , another good idea , but again we will face issues of things like custom/chassis/mods and motors
just some food for thought .
sax
-- Edited by sax0607 at 09:45, 2008-09-12
One easy solution is to have the scratchies use the running gear/chassis from cars like the Tang and the Chevy. Also as mentioned make it a one motor thing - ie all cars to run the 18k motor (or less). This would mean (in theory) just just the body that is diffrent - GTHO sitting on a Tang chassis etc
Just read Robs reply re likes and dislikes
He raised a good point in that there should be no whole sale changes to classes ie no more that say 2 new classes introduced or replacing current classes as a way to keep costs down. I know we all buy far more cars than we car race but thats cos we want to buy. I guess as a collective we dont like being told we HAVE to buy.
the use of a factory stang or camaro etc , would make life a lot easier to parity control, I guess the only mods to the chassis would be wheel base and track width to suit the resin bodies .
I couldn't agree more with Robs comment , in regards to a maximum introduction of no more than 2 new classes for the new season ($ & $) , and as Dick has suggested, the tweaking of some rules (parts replacements) on existing classes.
The suggestion of non championship/fun get togethers , could assist in the introduction of new classes . eg an LMP fuel race could be fun and also be used to assess the viability of the class as a possible championship class for the following year.
please take all this with a grain of salt , I tend not to say to much on forums ,(digital world imitating life ?) but feel all warm and cosy in here
atm this class has almost become the camaro cup , with a spattering of mustangs ,a galaxie (suprisingly competitive) and a torino (read BOAT) sorry chewy but its true.
sax
-- Edited by sax0607 at 09:45, 2008-09-12
I prefer to think of it as a stately barge A lot of good idea's coming along now any thing that can get me more slot time is a good thing And I think the Idea of making little tweaks here and there is the way to go And also using the social events as a sort of test run works for me as well I really enjoy my V32 meets and hope to for many years to come
If we do introduce scratch building, or a plafit class or anything else that is outside the norm RTR cars, I'm sure that the generosity of the more experienced among us would help the newbies in construction tips etc.
what would be better plafit or hrs class? From memory a hrs chassis is a lot cheaper? I'd love to pu my scaley skyline body on one - coz it's a piece of crap the way it is now!
I like the idea of opening up the muscle cars to liven up the grid!
What does everyone think of the Slot It class? It's been mentioned to me numerous times that Group C should be a seperate class. Would we all be keen to run 2 Slot It classes - Group C and Modern?
what would be better plafit or hrs class? From memory a hrs chassis is a lot cheaper? I'd love to pu my scaley skyline body on one - coz it's a piece of crap the way it is now!
Chris and Mark probably can answer this one I think both have tinkered with each of the chassis. Would the HRS just become another slot.it class?
If we go the Plafit chassis and use the Queensland rules we will have something setup and ready to run at the next nationals. Might be a bit short notice for next years championship unless we get the classes sorted soon. Anyone needing a hand, you know where I am.
Don't know much about the HRS but isn't it basically just a Slot it Chassis that you can put any body on. If this becomes a class then we could possibly end up with 3 Slot it classes, I know they are good but it would be nice to have a variety in the classes we run. Maybe this could be used under cars like the Revell March 83G to make it competitive in the Slot it class.
What is the thinking behind having the Slot it seperated into two classes, If we have 4 rounds per class like this year will it be 2 Modern and 2 Group C or will we sacrifice one of the other classes and run 4 rounds of each.
What is the reasoning behind it also, is it just to seperate the 2 classes or are the Modern cars faster and need there own class.
MJK cars in the Muscle car grid would be interesting, lets see how they go.
It was mentioned to me a few times this year to seperate the modern from Group C. Another option would be to run (example) 4 round of Slot It's in total for the year, but modern twice and Group C twice? Is that what you meant Chris?
I do like the opening of the muscle car class, (have a GTHO coming, once the resin maker pours some new ones), so running a resin body on a scaley chassis kind of appeals.
We have 12 rounds (one a month) and 9 classes currently.
It seems that F1's either modern or classic are looked upon as 'fragile', and the calls for not introducing not many new classes each year.
So if we drop these two, what do we replace them with? LMP? GT1 (like the proxy cars)? Road Rally or Targa? Control chassis? (plafit anyone) pick a body class to match 50/60's Sports Sports Swedans
If it is 2 Modern and 2 Group C then I don't have a problem with that.
Go here for the rules and regs for the Plafit Modern GT. A wide variety of cars available from all manufacturers, would be a good class.
http://mrslotcar.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=223
Must have been on the yahoo discussion about tinkering in the Group 5 class, correct me if I am wrong, what about allowing Sports Sedans in this class.
I have changed the forum round a little bit to make it more user friendly. As part of the change we can now break the forum up into topics better. As such I have loaded up polls on each of the classes as we have raced this year.
Should anyone want another class included please email or PM me with the class details and options for that class.
Remember we are not looking at great changes taking place but refinements and maybe changing no more than two classes.
Please take the time to do the polls as it will be of great help to us moving forward
Once we have seen what classes are out (its not looking good for ANY open wheelers) we can see which classes had a clear wins - As it stands dropping the two open wheelers fits with the desire to not change more than two classes - as a cost/collection control thing
Yeah, these seem to be a robust open wheeler, but if we go for these (because they're robust) then we are just forcing ourselves to buy another class of car. How many people wanna buy them to run at home also? Probably not many...
I say "Don't bother..."
I think we do actually need some form of open wheeler Why do we need another form of open wheeler? Almost everyone so far has bagged both forms, classic and modern... just asking the question, that's all.
I don't think it will be a case of adding 4 new classes, will depend on what gets "voted out" and replaces those. Adding 4 extras would bugger everything up - only get to race classes maybe twice a year, not really worth it
Modern F1 class has been voted out so its not on the agenda for 2009.
Maybe I am reading the result wrong but although 46% said drop Classic F1, the largest single group, it must mean that 54% want to race them still but with modifications to the regs we raced under this year.
Sports Sedan Whist 50% have said no to the class 50% have said yes but split their poll between what type of Sports Sedan class. I think this is a no goer due to half not wanting it at all. And yet over 60% would consider a Plafit class. Is this because the bodies utilised would be RTR bodies?
From where I am sitting it looks like the only class we drop is Modern F1 and introduce Modern Le Mans
Im happy to see Mordern F1 Go as they do nothing for me, After the debacle at Ged's with my classic F1 I put some time in on my own track, I reckon with some decent tyres they could be good. Ive got an open mind on this one.
I think the Nascars could well be just another V8 super car class, having said that at least its got more than one brand to offer some competition and variety.
I'd personally like to have a go at the plafit, its something different.
I got some Ortmanns for my March last week - but I'm yet to fit them. If these prove to be the difference bewteen an awful car and a good car to drive - I can organise to get em for everyone!
Yes Nascar's would be another V8 class - stick to home grown! Who won't be watching bathurst this weekend? don't see nascars anywhere like there! If it was an oval then yeah. Oval racing is boring and the cars that race on em - I'd have more fun in the dunny
I think the Nascars could well be just another V8 super car class, having said that at least its got more than one brand to offer some competition and variety.
I'd personally like to have a go at the plafit, its something different.
Agree withe the Nastycar/V8 thing (although Nastycars actually have drivers and dont all look like they are sponored by the Tint Proffessor)
As Plafits I think we would do well to get a costing done cos as mentioned before the cars are not cheap but spares are. Plus it would be good to see them in actions first.
I have one of the new MB kits $44.00 - very well made (although it did come missing a few grub srews) and is not as I had first thought, a Slot It clone and more importantly doesnt have a million screws to come undone.
Oval racing is boring and the cars that race on em
4 different manufacturers running 2,3 and 4 wide and they do this this called passing where cars go past each other. The ovals have different lenghts and degee of banking so they are not the same and they also race at Infineon Raceway and Watkins Glen International, the Nationwide cars even race at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve where they also race F1. I don't know what NASCAR racing you have been watching but it isn't the same ona I have been watching.
Initially I voted against this class, but after thinking about it and reading what people have wrote and listening to what people have said about this class, I'm starting to re-think my voting choice. Initially I thought it would just be like another V8 supercar class. I would be really interested in seeing someones nascar's set up to race to see how they run, besides different model cars, lots of different livery's is a good thing.
