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Allow Carrera and MRRC as well with up to 16k motor or Dick Smith motor????.
Agree with stock wheels and tyres, the standard Ninco tyres are an excellent match for these cars so should be allowed on the other brands.

The Dick Smith motor is a good choice for a super cheap swop ($3.00) and due to their almost total lack of torque make any car handle like a dream

Definatly allow the revell car's ie Chapperal,king cobra,porsche spyder,e type jag etc...

No real need, loosen the body screws and race them, lots of fun. Other than that maybe just the standard glueing and truing if you are really think it is needed.

As has been mentioned in this class most models come with 16k motor however the Scalextric Mercs both run the normal 18k powertrain.  If thats to be included then something needs to be done about its speed else everyone will end up racing just them.

So if someone can come up with a simple answer that can be easily checked, it would be a good thing.
These are just a few cars as listed at Armchair

carrera
FERRARI 166/212MM #617 Mille Miglia

MRRC
SHELBY COBRA 427
NINCO
AUSTIN HEALEY
CORVETTE SOFT TOP CLASSIC
FERRARI 250 TESTA ROSSA
JAGUAR XK-120
PORSCHE 550 SPYDER
REVELL
JAGUAR E-TYPE

PORSCHE 550 SPYDER
SCALEXTRIC
MERCEDES 300SLR (open and closed)

there are also a great number of other models out there but they to would come with the 18k motor. The class is aimed at the classical GT type cars as raced at Le Mans and the Mille Miglia so cars like little lotus's and Lolas etc would not be in ( I think they belong in with the classic Le Mans sports cars anyway)

Also the wheel/tyre thing would need to be looked at.  On standard rims, which are narrow, the cars go quite OK.  MJK have tyres which fit but I have never actually run my cars on them so dont know how they perform.
I also have a tyre which is a softer compand than Nincos, comparable to MJK/Gel Claw.  I see no need for allowing any rim changes. Just restrictions on the motor.

Just thinking out loud - 18k motor to run stand tyres, 16k or less runs MJK - then again on skinny tyres the faster motors might not be such a good idea cos the Ninco ones work very well 

As for resin bodies of which there are  THOUSANDS out there perhaps the same regs as Muscle cars.  So long as the chassis's axles/motor position isnt altered and providing the body is given the OK. 

-- Edited by aastes at 11:13, 2008-10-31

Just a quick note the Ninco Healy has an NC5 motor, but I would think a motor swap would be a simple job

aastes wrote:

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I'll add a couple more

Carrera
FERRARI 166/212MM #617 Mille Miglia

Jaguar D Type

Maserati A6

Aston Martin DB5

Mercedes 300SLR

Aston Martin DBR3

MRRC
SHELBY COBRA 427
Ferrarri 275
NINCO
AUSTIN HEALEY
CORVETTE SOFT TOP CLASSIC
FERRARI 250 TESTA ROSSA
JAGUAR XK-120
PORSCHE 550 SPYDER
Porsche 356
Ferrari 166
Cobra
REVELL/Monogram
JAGUAR E-TYPE

PORSCHE 550 SPYDER

Corvette Grand Sport

Cobra Daytona

SCALEXTRIC
MERCEDES 300SLR (open and closed)
PINK CAR

Ferrari 250GTO

FLY
Ferrari 250GTO

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-- Edited by mtpanorama at 14:47, 2008-11-02

Slot.It?
LMP?
Wrong thread I think Dave...?

Scrivo wrote:

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Just asking if this is going to be the trend for the other classe's, so many varities out there but to only run Ninco's for this class is ridiculous or to swap motor's out of my Revell car's or any car for that matter is a waste of money..

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Good point, but the bottom line is "with this class" there has to be a motor restriction in place or whats the point? My NC1 will come last everytime. Like Steve said, cars don't have to be fast to make good racing. If the motor issue is going to be a problem - I vote to BRING BACK THE MINI'S!!!!! 

As far as I can see the only motor that would be no good is the NC5 and actaully I have never seen one go any good cos they are over powered and undertyred.  It just launches off at every corner.  These cars need soft motors.  If someone gets a Scaley or Revell to work good luck to them.

So long as standard/Ninco tyre sizes are the control tyre the cars will work as a group.

G5 was a BMW benefit.  All classes will always have a car which may be perceived as being 'better'. When I say all I think the only class that didnt have one dominate car was classis Le Mans but even then its down to a few good'ns.

In this class, Carrera make a nice sellection but they dont seem to handle very well. They sit very high cos they really need the magnet downforce (then they are great).  Revell also sit high and supposidly come with a 19k motor - I doubt its 19k actually. 
The Dick Smith motor is rated as follows
Voltage Range: 3-12V, Nominal Voltage: 3V, Speed (no load): 3600 RPM, Current (no load): 0.07A, Torque@ Max Efficiency: 3.07g-cm.
and yet it have a top speed better than an NC1 which is rated at 13500 RPM.

On faster tracks it would go not much slower than a Scaley motor. It costs under $3.00 so its not the worlds great out lay. So revs dont mean out right speed.

As far as I am concerned just drop the NC5/box type motor so that will only effect a couiple of cars

The rest can run the motors they came with.  Add to that how many times they would get run say 4 times in a year. The vast majority want them so they will run. On a track like mine, Shane Lotts, no doubt Marks, and from what I have seen Robs (actaully I think they will love this track), and Dicks the cars will be quite even. On a track like Geds maybe the DIck Smith motor which is supposed to rev 10 to 13k slower will actually run as fast (maybe running out of puff) providing you dont mind waiting for it to wind up cos accelaration is a bit slow and you run the car light which you can due to the docile nature of the motor.

With every car on skinny tyres its about how you get the power down not how much power you get down.

Softer motors means the cars will be much easier to get to handle.

I'm not real big on motor swops, cos its an evil road to travel.

Having basically all said yes you are  starting to look to the negatives

IF a car dominates but the rest of the field has fun with close racing then look at doing somthing the year after

THATS why I am a great fan of taking small steps

SO for next year

Standard motor ( scaley type can only so if its an NC5 change it)
standard rims
standard or NINCO (or my tyres if I am happy with the results - MJK ones look s**t)
Standard bodies
Weight allowed

I'm not big on this thing about shaving 1mm round the chassis cos I have never had to do it but you guys seem to think its needed so its your call

If it works look at 6the year after to allowing resin bodies.
Maybe throw in standard motor OR Dick SMith type motor

What every we do dont expect these cars to go like the Classic Le Mans or Sedans cos they are narrow and dont do corners with a great deal of speed. BUT they do look good and you can have close racing.

gref wrote:

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NC1 vs NC5 is going to be an issue - Nathan and I raced our cars friday night against each other. I had jag with
NC1 and he had NC5 in his - mine had no chance

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Already covered

From the posted regs

Classic 1950s and 60s GT type classic cars
57.  Any brand Box stock cars with scaley type can only (so if its an NC5 change it)

58.  standard rims

59.  standard or NINCO Standard tyres

Complete Regs for 2009

-- Edited by aastes at 13:21, 2008-11-16

-- Edited by aastes at 13:22, 2008-11-16

nomad wrote:

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dont agree with "other type " motors we are opening a can of worms . As for scaley mercs they are a heap of rubbish . Simple answer dont include them in the class if you are worried about them. the NC8 is superior to the NC 2 as well, so where does it end ???

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When you say other type of motor what do you mean - other than scaley can type motor
(dunno the real name) or other than nc1

oh and i got my merc handling ok so im happy dog to do though especially as the motor sits on one side??????- not good enough to race though but fun to thump round the track

That would make things easy.
Are they pretty even Vlad?

I have the same motors also -  so there are plenty around

NimROD wrote:

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Hi Guy's,

I'll bring them all along to Shane's, every V32 member can have one.
No money please, they have been sitting in their polystyrene holder for around a year (LOLOLOL)

Regards
NimROD

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sounds good mate

Hi Rob,

Sorry haven't posted anything out to you yet but should over the holidays. Two motors in the box already.

Regards
NimROD