reminds me of the story about the kid who was little bit like the Rain Man
He asked his father if there was a colour darker than black. The dad said no The kid replied "but if there was a colour darker than black I would paint my bedroom that colour. "Oh" replied the father, "that would make it very dark" The kid thought for bit then replied "No, cos I would paint the ceiling black to brighten the room up
I just copied another set have removed the bit about lowering - the rest stays unless lots of others want it changed so it up to everyone else to voice concerns - we may not even race them
thats a good question - whilst i was at armchair jim showed me the slot it controller - fell in love till the price was mentioned $180 depending on exchange rate
biggest problem is thet are either pos wired or neg wired. if you plug a pos wired one in a neg wired track it blows up - this does not happen with wire wound so no from me just for that reason only
guys, do the rules cover new cars introduced during the year. Last year when new cars came out we seemed to run them without question. Do we need (have we already) covered this off, we need to consider new livery as opposed to new cars cheers
Matt, Use more glue, you need to fill the area on the pinion side between the motor bracket and the axle holder and on the other end between the chassis and the motor.
its done Chris , but without the brace and just glued the chassis cracks in the same place ,I have a new car ready to run , but just fear the same will happen again , I suppose I will just have to turn the horsepower dial down.................................
Just wondering what the ruling will be as reguards to the Ninco lexan chassis as I have an issue with my toyota supra and am unable to get a black chassis for it, only the lexan one is now available.
Well my opinion on the chassis matter is if the original is un available then lexan should be allowed - I need a chassis for my NSX, but have had no luck finding one as yet
Agreed regarding the chassis replacement, the 997 is still available at Pendles I belive, the Supra I do not know?
In regards to bracing, we can discuss this at the first round @ Ians. Personally I think most nincos need bracing in there rear and im sure there are other brands that would benifit from this simple mod.
i agree with bracing as it is a known design flaw. as for replacement chassis i dont agree with moving to the pro race part as the original is still readily available. Ian i actually have a spare one you can purchase. otherwise they can be sourced overseas easily eg fantasy toyworld and Hobby in th eUSA has all the spare parts
I agree wit the bracing for all Nincos ( I seem to remeber being told I was wrong in saying that last year!!!!!)
Actually I think bracing should allowed on ALL cars that way its far easier to police and allows ALL cars to have the same mods done
Dont agree to the lexon chassis thing
Actually dont agree to the motor swop thing either based only on the fact cars are moving so far away from production models and all these allowances keep adding to the cost What if swopping to a Slot It motor makes the car produce better lap times than a Ninco then you should also allow the Ninco to have the Slot It motor and so it goes on and on.
I just dont like some cars being eligible for some mods yet other cars are not, even within the same class
Bracing for all cars if you want to. A bit late to talk about it at Ian's as we are racing the 997 on that day. Can we sort it out before then.
Thanks Matt, after posting I opened up my Porsche and the glue had let go on the top of the motor. So more glue/re-glue and maybe a brace?
Not sure about the lexan chassis, if it is the only spare chassis available locally, OS isn't handy if you need one quickly, and doesn't break like the standard chassis then why not, its just like changing plastic rims for alloys. If it is also stronger then maybe it will remove the need to brace the chassis.
Lexan (polycarbonate) will most definitely be stiffer than the production plastic used in the cars. Remember stiffer doesn't always mean stronger, in fact it could just be the opposite and be brittle.
It would seem we are all agreed on the bracing issue of the rear end on ALL cars so let that be closed and added to the rules.
guys just for clarity on the motor "swapping" You have already allowed "replacement" (of the same motor) in your general rules (rule 14) and your GT rules (rule 37) insinuate you may change the motor as long as it is limited to 19,000 rpm. Can we please clairify this.
Can i also ask this one, if a car as per class list has a 26,000 rpm motor as standard, can it race in the GT class?? ie if i turn up with a Fly corvette with a pro race fly motor as standard is it eligible?
please clarify thanks
note, yes swapping the generic motor to the slot it does improve lap times, but it is only bringing the car closer to a "generic" 20k limit as all other relevant motor, fly etc run at 18k
1st part of your question guys just for clarity on the motor "swapping" You have already allowed "replacement" (of the same motor) in your general rules (rule 14) and your GT rules (rule 37) insinuate you may change the motor as long as it is limited to 19,000 rpm. Can we please clairify this. The way I read this is that it is the same motor type, i.e. in all ways not just the can and endbell configuration but RPM and torque etc. The key to this is the words "as per original".
14. If any consumable's (gears, pinions, motors, tyres, bushings, wires, braid, axles, wheels and tyres) are worn/damaged/replaced the following applies: Such items listed may be replaced with generic items providing they do not alter the performance of or the specifications of the car i.e. must have the same gear ratio as original and motor type as per original and wheel track width no wider than original 2nd part of your question
Can i also ask this one, if a car as per class list has a 26,000 rpm motor as standard, can it race in the GT class?? ie if i turn up with a Fly corvette with a pro race fly motor as standard is it eligible? No. 37. Ninco can only run NC5 motors only, Other brands limited to 19k(SCX is 19k).
Can i also ask this one, if a car as per class list has a 26,000 rpm motor as standard, can it race in the GT class?? ie if i turn up with a Fly corvette with a pro race fly motor as standard is it eligible? No. 37. Ninco can only run NC5 motors only, Other brands limited to 19k(SCX is 19k).
OK then tell me what other brand of slot car has a 19k motor other than SCX, going to be hard to put an SCX motor in a Scalextric 430 to give it a little more grunt, but that would not be allowed as it is not "as per original".
I thought we were trying to open up the GT class which is what was voted for, looks like those who voted against this have got the rules in place to keep the class the same as last year.
I'm not sure where the 19k came from but it should be 20k as that's what NC5 is? From here I see the forum becoming (or what it should become) a place where it is only in "read" form where no replies can but added as it causes confusion and silly arguments over crap.
Round 1 is this saturday and there's still a few things that need sorting and if need be we can do it then - all in person so it's all open for discussion on the day only. Then it will be posted here and auslot for all to see what "it is" with no option to question or add to it and if that is needed/wanted it can be done through email/pm with Steve, Rob, or myself or all of us. So then it's sorted privately and doesn't drag on.
Sounds good to me - let me know what you all decide
Just remember we are now looking at getting a $50 car, adding alloy wheels, Slot It gears, and Slot It motors and turning the car into $100 car
I know you dont have to do any of these things BUT if these things do add up to a better car then you have just doubled the price of getting new cars up to speed
Sounds like a cover up to me, a read only forum with contact via PM only. I thought this forum was for the free and open discussion from all V32 members, sure it gets bogged down at times but it gets sorted out and everyone knows what it happening. If you want to run a dictatorship then tell us that is what you are doing but don't pretend we all have an input into the group and then change your mind when the questions get a bit hard.
I cant give you any other car with a 19K motor as you know Chris, if we made it 20K for that matter what other GT cars are available out of the box other than the Nincos?
I certainly have no hidden agendas nor running a dictatorship, this was and still is an open forum from its inception. I'm happy to discuss things though as it has been said before the written word can be taken out of context, and sometimes better resolved face to face.
Questions...love em, though I cant always provide all the right answers.
Rob, Steve, Gref and Chris thanks for clearing it up ( i think) Writing rules is very difficult as the words can sometimes be interpretted different ways. Saturday will be good to sort out any lingering doubt. But as i now understand GT class is limited to Ninco 20k motor and all others as long as they are 19k, As for the comments i dont follow those so i will let them pass without comment see you saturday.
As discussed Saturday during round 1 regarding Guides. For the 60/70s Le Mans Class and Group 5 the following rule should be amended. It was in Steve's original proposal and was already in force for the 2008 season.
Ninco spring guide (Not Pro-Race Guides) - may have spring removed.
This is only for the 60/70s Le Mans Class and Group 5 all other guides are standard as per manufactures spec.
A couple of other things discussed on Saturday: chassis for Ninco cars. As the older/original chassis is out of production, we agreed the new lexan chassis is ok to replace.
SCX motors - can be upgraded to RX 42B or Pro Turbo as the RX 42 is useless and incredibly slow compared with the "B" motors
Another point that has been brought to my attention is the allowance of Ninco guides in Group 5 class. This was allowed last year and is not mentioned in the rules/regs (unless I missed it), this must be allowed this year as most of us have this mod